With all the mockery and joy and good feelings, I hope none of us lose sight of the threat we are facing. To those of you who listen to podcasts, I highly recommend this one: To wrap up our Project 2025 series, Kate, Leah and Melissa are joined by NYU’s Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of Strongmen: Mussolini To The Present to share her perspective as a historian on the Heritage Foundation’s terrifying plans for the country. CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 2:17 Trump Continues to Hide His Project 2025 Connections 5:25 Ruth Ben-Ghiat on Project 2025 21:40 Faux Populism of Project 2025 46:30 What Happens After the First 100 Days?